William-m

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February 2012

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Fat and the Ivy: Some things I don't understand → fatandtheivy.tumblr.com

My last Doctor’s Appointment I had lost almost 20 lbs. He congratulation me. I tried to tell him if anything I should have gained weight and that I had not dieted in the least!!

Go Figure :)

Why is it accepted that some people who eat a ton of food can stay thin, but not accepted that some people who eat a small amount of food can be fat?

Since thin people get diabetes, heart disease and high blood pressure, why is becoming thin suggested as a cure?

Why bother using BMI as a…

Feb 27, 20123,777 notes
bumsquash: What is it I'm not getting about → bumsquash.tumblr.com

For me it is not an issue of fat men vs fat women, I will admit that fat women receive more fat bias than fat men. I do not always agree with the “VAST” differences that some Feminists say exists. Fat Women get a heavy dose of Fat Bias from both men and women. Men tend not to focus directly/personally on other men’s fat because that would be too “gay”. Indirectly Mens magazines are very bias toward fat on both men and women.

On a side note from treating men in drug rehabs for years and my door is often open to the “dayroom” I can say with certainty that men do not sit around all day putting down fat women, maybe that is a behavior more at home when they were out clubbing.

What I feel is wrong with Fat Acceptance is that so many people have nothing more to say about fat men than the subject of the less bias they perceive them receiving. Many never even have a supportive word to say about fat men, only their apathetic comments. I do not count these people as Fat Allies for fat men. As a fat guy I do not look for any support from Feminism even thought they have a lot to say about fat men. Feminism is not a Fat Ally for fat men.

I look for Fat Acceptance from people in Fat Acceptance (Mainly other Fat People). I think fat people as the primary stakeholder of Fat Acceptance. I view Fat Allies on a individual basis.

bumsquash:

this seeming non argument about who has it worse fat wo/men? I simply don’t get it, so feel free to help me out by explaining it to me.

We know that fatphobia has an inherent mysogynistic aspect. We know that it travels on, uses and therefore underlines sexism against women. We also know feminism…

Feb 25, 20126 notes
Listen Sarah Philipson

I am a fat male and kind of a inverse of what you wrote for fat women. What matters is that Society does not approve of us.

imjustsarahcate:

I am a woman of unknown size

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and for some reason that gives you the right to criticize.
You judge my hair, my height, my weight

You cast aspersions, fill your words with hate

you say I’m too fat to ever date.

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I am a woman of unknown size.

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I’ve small round tits, big hips, soft thighs

You think it’s your place to remind me of mine

as though I cared, as though your shit was shined.

Call me livestock, call me damned… I hate to say it, but you’re no man for

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I am a woman of unknown size.

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a sister, a daughter, a lover a friend,

I’m someone’s beginning, I could be someone’s end.

I’m more than what you see before you,

And with some grace I’ll come to ignore you, but right now..

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I am a woman of unknown size.

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For some reason you think it’s right to criticize,

To assess my health, my wealth, my joy—

a secret of hate couched on concern my confidence scares you—

You’ve nowhere to turn.

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From a woman of unknown size.

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but guess what dear, we’re getting larger, bigger, fatter,

Healthier, stronger; our voices reach and stretch to the skies

No softness left just anger primed.

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We are the women of unknown size.

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So fuck your rules, and your regulations,

Your norms, your averages, your ministrations.

I don’t want your approval no, Just take your hatefulness and go.

There is no place for you beside a powerful woman

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of unknown size.

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-(c)SarahCate

Feb 24, 2012166 notes
Sixteen Tons: Privileged people → sixteentons.tumblr.com

I second #5!

As a fat guy I am tired of other people publishing what I have and have not experienced as if it is a absolute fact. Fat guys are not just a stereotype to be used in other people’s Blogs for their own means.

sixteentons:

Why can’t you/we just accept that people you/we oppress know better what you/we do to oppress them and shut up about it? Here are some tips:

  1. Listen quietly and don’t give in to the temptation to share your Super Important Butthurt Opinions and/or exclaiming I’m Not One Of The Bad Guys. Listen…
Feb 23, 201214 notes
Creating an Ecotopian Based Community

These sites may help

https://www.facebook.com/villageproject

 https://www.facebook.com/smallstreets

ecotopian:

I feel as though I’m a foreigner in my own country - and the city I’ve lived in for the past 42 years.

As I turn 50 this year, I’ve begun to wonder what it would take to establish a new town here in Oregon - one that would be based upon the very ideals of Ecotopia.

Read More

Feb 23, 20124 notes
The Drunken Engineer: It’s important to me to reclaim the word “fat.” It’s not a bad word.... → fadeupyoursmile.tumblr.com

It’s important to me to reclaim the word “fat.” It’s not a bad word. It’s not intrinsically insulting. All it tells you is that this person has more visible fat on her frame than a thin person does — and since in my case, that’s the plain truth, I don’t have any problem with being described that…

Feb 19, 201212 notes
Love is Fluid: A Reminder to Those Who Gained Weight → loveisfluid.tumblr.com

redefiningbodyimage:

loveisfluid:

I know, your body looks different. It has changed, along with your life, and your jeans fit a little more snuggly than you had anticipated. Maybe more than you like.

Maybe you hate it.

You were a size X for such a long time, so comfortable in your skin, and suddenly, you are 10, 20, 50 pounds…

Wow.

Feb 18, 2012711 notes
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This reminds me of one of my favorite quotes:

…It takes courage to push yourself to places that you have never been before… to test your limits… to break through barriers. And the day came when the risk it took to remain tight inside the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom…. —-Anais Nin


I fight fat-phobia because it’s ugly and mean and I need to save myself from it. I do what I do because I’m really afraid – because I believe that the costs of not challenging this system are too painful for me to bear. My whole world shifted once I understood that. The war that was originally waged against my self – the fat on my body – was more appropriately waged against oppressive attitudes about fat.

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—Linda Bacon, “Thin Privilege”  (via fatandtheivy)
Feb 18, 2012262 notes
The callipygous feminist: Anonymous asked: So its totally cool that people don’t find larger men (or women, non-binary folk, etc) attractive. BUT... → fatcatsandcurls.tumblr.com

I think that it needs to be said that fat women do not have to be “curvy” or even have curves to be beautiful and a fat man who has extra curves can still be handsome.

lafillemange:

This is why those who can’t love their bodies often can’t love others whose bodies resemble theirs. If you are fat and you don’t find fat people attractive, maybe it’s not your innate preference but the fat hate that you’ve been programmed to have from the time you could…

Feb 18, 201235 notes
Glittery Fuck Patch: Anonymous asked: So its totally cool that people don’t find larger men (or women, non-binary folk, etc) attractive. BUT... → lafillemange.tumblr.com

In Fat Acceptance some fat people who have defended their preference of not being attracted to people of similar size have almost been hostile and often insulting to their fat peers. When I first came into Fat Acceptance their was a consensus that it was OK for women to be very fat and not for men. That was a learned attitude created in early Fat Acceptance. It is no difference in Society at large. This is a case of people being programmed by their peers

In society we learn from our parents, elders and peers. 

fatcatsandcurls:

lafillemange:

This is why those who can’t love their bodies often can’t love others whose bodies resemble theirs. If you are fat and you don’t find fat people attractive, maybe it’s not your innate preference but the fat hate that you’ve been programmed to have from…

Feb 16, 201235 notes
: Annoying. → tinybarofsoap.tumblr.com

Still it is not right to try to ignore the fact that fat men also face a lot of problems. People like you seem to only be able to focus on what you think fat men do not experience.

tinybarofsoap:

The movie Shallow Hal is fucking ridiculous. This fat, balding guy is trying to save the other fat guy from dancing with fat and/or ugly girls? I don’t know or care how this movie ends or what the message ultimately is. It still shows how disgusted all his friends are because Jack Black (really?)…

Feb 13, 20127 notes
FattiBOOMbalatti: If those billboards existed when I was a kid...  → fattiboombalatti.tumblr.com

When I think of the comment they made about the boy with moobs, as medical people they should know the pain and anxiety that gynecomastia causes for men and boys.

Maybe because it was a fat person the pain their comment caused does not count or matter. 

fattiboombalatti:

The whole Georgia Obese kid billboard sign outrage and the lash back by Body Diversity and Size Acceptance activists have triggered so many feelings inside of me who experienced life as a kid who was fat and terribly bullied.

It has taken me years to figure out why I suffer with so much body…

Feb 13, 20125 notes
I love Fat! A fat acceptance blog: fatbodypolitics: Bdoingbdoingbdoingbdoing: william-m asked: See the... → ilovefat.tumblr.com

I am not asking anyone to focus more on fat men, enough of that goes on in Fat Acceptance already. Unfortunately most of it is extremely apathetic centering on theorizing on what fat men do not experience instead of letting them share what they do experience. Is it any wonder why Fat Acceptance seems to repel fat men?

BigFatFeminist said

………To focus on fat men, not only is that not my place as I am not male, but also would silence my own experience that includes sexism……….

fatbodypolitics:

Bdoingbdoingbdoingbdoing: william-m asked: See the problem is that none of what you have mentioned in your post shows that society thinks that it…

sprackraptor:

bdoing:

bigfatfeminist:

Society does think it’s more acceptable for men to be fat. It is not…

Feb 8, 201219 notes
All the fat hate on the internet is really getting me down.

One of my favorite quotes:

I imagine one of the reasons people cling to their hates so stubbornly is because they sense, once hate is gone, they will be forced to deal with pain.

—-James Arthur Baldwin (1924-87), American writer, critic

redefiningbodyimage:

Will it ever end?

Feb 7, 201254 notes
big fat feminist: william-m asked: See the problem is that none of what you have mentioned in your post shows that society thinks that it... → bigfatfeminist.tumblr.com

I had to leave one last post here. I feel what this discussion most communicated was that there is no need for fat men to join the Fat Acceptance discussion because people like those on this Blog have already discussed, classified and filed away everything to do with fat men. I am glad they are more freethinking areas out there in Fat Acceptance.

 
bdoing
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bigfatfeminist:

Society does think it’s more acceptable for men to be fat. It is not “acceptable,” per se, because fatness in and of itself is considered unacceptable, but fat men are not considered utterly worthless as a result of being fat. Fat women are, because women’s…

Feb 6, 201219 notes
Body Positive: Why I Endorse Fat Acceptance → bodyimageblog.tumblr.com

Just spreading the word

bodyimageblog:

In my blog I use Fat Acceptance and Body Acceptance interchangably because to me they mean the same thing. But I’ve heard the term Fat Acceptance specifically criticized for a number of reasons (mainly based on ignorance of what it actually means - e.i. associating it with feederism or thin…

Feb 6, 201228 notes
#fat acceptance #size acceptance
It is not ridicules to expect fat women to talk about fat male issues they do it all the time.

BigFeminist found it very easy to discount and marginalize fat male issues even though she had to admit that we have some. Fat women always complain that there is not enough fat men in Fat Acceptance and there will never be many as long as the experiences that fat men are allow to own are so small and controlled.

Fat men do have experiences to share, but it if they are going to be constantly critiqued and put under a microscope Fat Acceptance will not be that appealing.

Feb 5, 20123 notes
#fat men #fat women #feminism #gender
big fat feminist: william-m asked: See the problem is that none of what you have mentioned in your post shows that society thinks that it... → bigfatfeminist.tumblr.com

Both you and Bigfeminist have a some what discriminatory attitude towards fat men. Saying that fat male Issues are not being handled well by Fat Acceptance is not saying that fat male and female experiences are the same. What it is saying is that fat male issues are being discounted and marginalized by Fat Acceptance. You will not find one positive statement from society from about fat men, nothing to support your suggestion of a great spring of acceptance in society for fat men. These issues are not simple as 1. 2. 3. yet you and Bigfeminist speak of fat male issues in absolutes. In Fat Acceptance as in any relationship when one side is always right, always provides the answers, the relationship is doomed to fail.

bdoing:

bigfatfeminist:

Society does think it’s more acceptable for men to be fat. It is not “acceptable,” per se, because fatness in and of itself is considered unacceptable, but fat men are not considered utterly worthless as a result of being fat. Fat women are, because women’s…

Feb 5, 201219 notes
#fat men #gender #fat women #acceptance #feminism
BigFeminist

Today I have been having a discussion with Big Feminist about fat men and their acceptability which she has just chose to end. I was careful not to say anything that suggested what fat women experienced because as a fat guy all I know is what they have shared with me.

BigFeminist seemed to feel entitled to fill in all the answers when it came to what fat men have experienced. I am going out for the afternoon and maybe evening and as a fat guy I will be back to report on any instances of acceptance I experience during my travels.

William

Feb 5, 20123 notes
#fat men #fat acceptance #gender #feminism
My conversation on BigFeminist

I posted on bigfeminist’s tumblr site, but tumblr stinks when it comes to relying to a long statement from the owner of the tumblr site because you only have a couple of hundred keystrokes to use.

BigFeminist is answering my question:

…..Why do Fat Feminists act like there are fan clubs out there promoting the existence of fat men? I know we are not the center of focus for fat bias, but I have not seen many positive statements about fat men from society at large or even in Fat Acceptance when you compare how Fat Acceptance deals with fat men and women……

http://bigfatfeminist.tumblr.com/post/17072457640/why-do-fat-feminists-act-like-there-are-fan-clubs-out


First off I am no way saying that fat men should be the center of the fat acceptance dialogue. I am asking why the topic of fat men and their experiences are pushed into a small corner of Fat Acceptance by so many in Fat Acceptance. In my original comment I acknowledged that fat women take the brunt of fat bias from society. What I am asking is if the lives of fat men are as unaffected by fat bias as some people in Fat Acceptance portray them to be? Do they really believe that fat men do not have to be concerned about body image, that unlike fat women rolls of fat on men are no problem? Do they think all the comments about fat men and moobs on the internet are good hearted?


What I am asking is why do fat feminist think that fat men are so accepted by society and what statements in society are they basing their claims on. I did not ask why fat men are not in part of the center of focus in Fat Acceptance still BigFeminist again points out how fat men are far more acceptable in society than fat women even though there are no conversations in society that support her claims.

BigFeminist goes on to use a study on the sexualization of bodies of teenage girls as if that sheds some light on how fat men are more accepted by society even though society has never showed any evidence that it even approve of the idea of fat men.

Big Feminist goes on to use the storylines of movies some of them not even involving fat males as proof that fat men are more accepted by society. I would be more convinced if I saw some evidence in the mindset of society that stated its approval of fat men.

For some people in Fat Acceptance the fat experiences of fat men will always be a glass half empty instead of half full. A good start to getting a clearer picture of fat men would be if people stopped defining the lives of fat men indirectly by using what other groups experience to define the lives of fat men. Use studies on the lives of fat men instead of studies on fat women, teenage girls, thin men and women that confuse the issue.

The fact that fat women are the public focus for most of society’s fat bias does not communicate much about how society views fat men.

Feb 5, 2012
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